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In this episode, Bobby and Brad get on the phone with Garland Vance to talk about his book, Gettin’ (un)Busy.

Hurry is the new normal. We want to achieve our dreams and live a significant life, so we cram our calendars with nonstop activities.  Instead of feeling fulfilled, we’re distracted, exhausted, and overwhelmed. We have too much to do and not enough time.  But it doesn’t have to be this way! 

In Gettin’ (un)Busy, Garland shares how he nearly burned out while leading a nonprofit, having a family, and working on his doctorate in leadership and spiritual formation. He discovered a powerful, proven, and research-driven system that will help you shed stress, accomplish your dreams, and love life.

Aside from the book, we focus our conversation on creating family boundaries that help keep us from getting wound up in business. In this, we also discuss how to have a family sabbath. It is a powerful conversation about the business and how we can strategically prep and plan our days and decades with purpose.

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