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This episode has two parts. In Part One, Bobby shares five books that every man needs to read and apply to their lives. In Part Two, Bobby interviews Jerrad Lopes, Christian pastor and  founder of, a non-profit ministry focused on equipping men to lead their families well. Jerrad hosts the weekly Dad Tired Podcast listened to by hundreds of thousands of men from around the world. (Listen to our previous interview with Jerrad here.)

Books mentioned in this episode:

1. Wild at Heart
2. Dad Tired
3. Kingdom Man
4. Behold the Man
5. Becoming a King

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